Please don’t tell me to get off of it, I have old Livejournal friends to keep in touch with and that’s why I’m there.

  • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
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    I just thought you were referring to some third party and saying how their normal isn’t normal, even though it’s normal for them

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      That’s exactly what I was saying. Which is not the same as what you’ve been implying I was saying but is the same as what I was saying I was saying earlier.

      Hopefully that clarifies it.

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        Which is not the same as what you’ve been implying I was saying but is the same as what I was saying I was saying earlier.

        I’m confused on what you thought I was implying. The point has always been the same afaik

        You

        I can’t believe how much of the world just… goes with it and thinks it’s normal. It’s definitely not normal. Just some serious psychosexual patriarchy mindfuck going on for so many people.

        Me

        It’s normal because it’s what most do. That’s what normality is

        Typical and even expected in a lot of places. There it would be considered normal

        It’s normal in those places because it’s usual, typical or expected. If it’s not those things where you live, it’s not normal where you live. It’s not any harder than that.

        I was maybe too optimistic with that last line.

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          Oh, cool, this is the easy part of these dumb things where we get to just copy paste the original conversation and go down the loop. Hold on:

          You added “a lot of places”. It’s not typical or expected here, so it’s not normal here.

          So “normalcy” on this is geographically bound. So is it normal if my normal and your normal are different and the Internet is making us rub our normals together?

          Told you it was a waste of time.

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            I wouldn’t call it stupid, you were under the assumption that I implied something different or changed it during the conversation so I just showed what I was saying right at the start to show that it’s been the same.

            You added “a lot of places”. It’s not typical or expected here, so it’s not normal here.

            You always need context to describe normalcy.

            So “normalcy” on this is geographically bound. So is it normal if my normal and your normal are different and the Internet is making us rub our normals together?

            Geography is one context, but it’s more about societal norms in this case, which don’t strictly follow geographical bounds. So yes and no. In this case if the people in question live in a place where it’s typical or expected, it’s normal.

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              You have context to define normalcy. I’m the speaker and I’m from a place where it’s not normal, so it’s not normal.

              But of course that’s not the point and has never been, because the line isn’t about whether the practice is standard in some regions, which it obviously is, it’s about whether it makes sense to the general principles of general mores on gender for modern society, which it doesn’t.

              Which you understand fully and always have. Because this is one of these dumb ones, so we’re now on loop two.

              Man, social media sucks and is so not normal.

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                  Oh, we’re back to copy pasting and out of the “calling out the real conversation that’s happening” tangent? Cool.

                  I mean, if you take your definition of normal, surely the person speaking determines what’s normal, right? That’s not a good thing, because your working definition of normalcy is bad and nonsensical and only determined by your desire to antagonize somebody online on a nitpick, so you probably don’t like it much yourself beyond that. But if we take it, then I get to say what’s normal when I speak because normal is “the state of being usual, typical, or expected” and I’m the one having the expectations here.

                  The surroundings are my surroundings because it is my post.

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                    No the person speaking doesn’t determine it when speaking about other people. You can’t decide normalcy for someone else.