• SheeEttin@lemmy.zip
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    They were not arrested. They were detained, questioned, and released. No justice was had today.

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    I know you can’t just detain people arbitrarily in a free country, but it sucks that they’re probably just going to flee back to Israel now that they’ve learned the lesson that they’re not untouchable outside of Israel and the US.

    Reminder that the IDF has published guidelines for its troops on how to evade getting arrested by an ICC member state while traveling abroad, which is definitely something a very moral and humane military does.

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      22 hours ago

      If the ICC had real teeth, there would be guides like that for American soldiers as well. The reason that there are none doesn’t mean the US military is not committing large scale crimes against humanity.

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      What about this is “arbitrary?”

      These nazis should not be allowed to see the light of day again.

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        As in the concept of evidence-based prosecution, jury trials, and reasonable sentencing. Not black-bagging people or assassinating them in the small hours of the night because of a presumed association.

        If that’s how you want to treat Nazis I won’t try to disabuse you of the idea, but you definitely shouldn’t want or expect the State to hand that retribution out.

        EDIT: more contextually, I’d like to believe that if they had the evidence and authority to keep indefinite custody of them, they would have. But they were released. With everything going on in the US it’s easy (at least for me) to forget that that’s how things work in a functioning democracy. Throwing them in a hole based on a whim and against what you have the legal authority to do is what would be arbitrary.

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          oh fair points - it is arbitrary in that context for sure. These assholes are doing asshole things. Just remember what the german ww2 era nazis did was “legal” then, too. I suspect our current fascists will claim “it’s legal” too. Thanks for your reply.

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      silver lining, Israelis will think twice before vacationing in Europe. Let the genociders vacation in Russia where they belong. Israelis are the most unbearably obnoxious tourists.

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    People are making strange comments. Articles say they are using evidence from these soldiers’ social media. I think these guys are going to prison. I mean, I hope, but I also think so.

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      After the interviews, they were released

      Yes, despite the soldiers posting their crimes against humanity on their own social media like they were proud of it.

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        If ever there was a need for the countries of the world to engage in genocide, the IDF, their handler government and all loyal to international Israeli propaganda/manipulatory groups deserve it.

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            You can tell which ones is ok to genocide if you wait a few decades to see what the winning side wrote into the history books.

            /s
            (The “is ok” is sarcasm, the rest is just a fact of humanity tho, we seem to praise ancient as well as recent genocidal spoils victors.)

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              There is a difference between what the powers that be allow and what we personally think is okay.

              And the person I replied to apparently thinks genocide is okay as long as it hits the right people.

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                I don’t disagree (and I didn’t write anything disagreeing with that).

                What I added was that we still on average admire nations build on genocide or immoral individuals just because of their wealth and status achieved (& how long lasting & persistent it is).

                I never said that a bunch of us don’t disagree with genociding anyone. There are always voices like this through the history.

                (Tho on that note, not that it’s relevant, about the person you replied to - I don’t like when ppl use the word ‘genocide’ for a political party/military group & not something broader, like ethnicity.)

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      Ahh shit, i had glosses over that. I hope Belgium will not let them flee back.

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    Under different circumstances someone belonging to an organization guilty of murdering children would be locked in jail for eternity.

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    I think I value my life as much as any other person would value theirs. Its a war crime to hurt me.

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    when you’re against genocide but decide to be passive-aggressive about it

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    Jewish Nazis in Belgium. Poland would have been more poetic but this goes with the whole history rhymes thing.