• TachyonTele@piefed.social
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    The only reason I’ve ever seen to call the cops was when someone sped through a light, gained air over a hedge, and smashed hood first into a building. And that was just because i wanted the ambulance to get to them fast.

    Noise? Never.
    Fights? Never.
    Strange noises. Never.
    Etc etc.
    All they do is cause more problems.

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      if there’s a breaking and entering you probably have more chance reasoning with the trespasser than having anything good come from pigs showing up.

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          Every interaction I’ve ever had with police I’ve been the one attempting to de escalate. Literally 100%. What’s frustrating is you speaking calmly and clearly pisses them off even more because they feel like you’re speaking down to them. They feel like they are supposed to be the reasonable ones and you’re making them look bad. Which of course you are, because they’re not.

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      what? fuck off with this acab bullshit, it’s not all black and white, if there’s a knife fight in the neighbor’s house i’m calling the police, and i’m appalled that there’s someone who wouldnt.

      what do you suggest, getting stabbed yourself? ignoring it and letting an innocent human being die? how would you even sleep with that at night?

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        the problem is they never check who’s who before they start shooting. there are numerous instances where the person who calls the police for protection is the one who gets shot.

        so your choice is between a stabbing and a shooting. and a stabbing you might be able to run away from.

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          this sounds awfully similar to “man or bear”

          just because police are uncompetent pigs who sometimes shoot the caller, doesn’t mean that in the majority of the cases they’ll shoot them.

          And just because you have that 1% risk of getting wrongly shot (could be lower, pulled the number out of my ass) doesn’t mean you should try to face the very real and instant threat of another person trying to stab you.

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            and just as man vs bear, you have to be very privileged to not get why bear is the popular choice.

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                that doesn’t even make sense… having a functioning brain prevents you from understanding why the bear was a popular choice?

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                  no, it makes me understand the levels of delusion and irrealism (and the inability to do math) people have, be it with man or bear or ACAB

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    It wasn’t until she called the number the next day that she learned the police had called immigration agents on her. The officer who answered the phone told her that the police report noted that ICE had been contacted, and advised her not to make a report in person or risk being detained, she said.

    The only good cop is a cop that snitches and tells you not to trust the other cops.

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      I know I’ll get downvoted to hell for this, but I have to stick up for the big Texas metros, especially Austin and Houston. They are in a constant battle against fascist state government as well as federal fuckery. The police department is legally required to alert the appropriate agencies of any open warrants. If they do not comply, the state and federal government will step in. What they are NOT required to do is to warn the victim against possible ICE detention. That is just HPD trying to do better in what is essentially a fucked situation.

      SOURCE: Former Austin resident of over twenty years.

      PS: That is not to say that those police departments don’t have their issues. They have many. But I don’t think they are as complicit with Trump’s gestapo as the majority of Florida law enforcement is.

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    This is exactly the use case for not allowing cops to actively help ICE. Not only are there jurisdictional issues, but now you’re discouraging people from calling help when they need it

    Similar for drivers licenses. If you get into an accident, do you prefer the other driver to be licensed and insured, and take responsibility, or do you want them uninsured and hit and run?

    And SNAP. Please tell me no state requires immigration status, forcing people to starve their kids

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      discouraging people from calling help when they need it

      This is literally why they’re doing it. Government makes simply existing illegal for a huge class of workers so companies abuse them as much as they want while they’re too scared to call for help, no matter how bad it gets. Bonus points if the general population hates them too so even publicity doesn’t matter. (Hey, totally unrelated, isn’t it great how convicts are so heavily vilified for life?) I know the phrase is way overused, but The Cruelty Is The Point isn’t (only) about how psycho some of these people are, it points to how they’ll do anything for money.

      In the end, though, this a great way for gangs gain power. People aren’t going to stop calling for help, they’re going to stop calling the police for help. I guess the party of law and order would love a good crime wave.

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        Hey, totally unrelated, isn’t it great how convicts are so heavily vilified for life?

        murders someone in cold blood

        WhY dO yOu HaTe Me sO mUcH

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          It’s not just murderers that get that though. Even if you went to jail for something like driving while black, you are a dangerous ex-con for life.

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            i understand the systemic racism in police but “driving while black” isn’t an actual crime, let alone one that can put you in jail

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              It’s only a way of starting an interaction, it escalates easily with things like “illegal possession”, “resisting arrest” and “assaulting a police officer” . Which are all things that might happen without the suspect doing anything really.

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                  Happens regularly often the police officers find themselves compelled to kill their passive aggressor in self defense.