This is giving strong “I hope nobody finds out I went to Epstein island” vibes.
Vibes? I can feel the shaking all the way over here.
As a writer, how can he be this clueless about character continuity and congruency?
All this does is implicate his involvement. I know he was coked out of his mind for decades but I never would’ve associated him with Epstein previously… Come to think of it, cocaine was probably how he met Epstein/Trump.
I’m gonna be hopeful and assume that he means there’s probably no outright list of customers, as in, no black book with names, phone numbers and who they abused, but instead emails, messages etc that link a lot of very powerful people to disgusting crimes.
I never heard anything about the list specifying which celebrity abused which child. I thought it was — at most — people who are strongly implicated through Epstein’s private comms, documents, etc.
We already know who went to the island, but simply accepting a holiday from a billionaire doesn’t imply involvement with his criminal syndicate.
thats not what he implied at all, hes saying the LIST IS AS REAL AS TOOTH FAIRY AND THE santa claus, so basically saying it doesnt exist. it also implies he is on the list.
You mean the guy who wrote about a bunch of like 12 year olds running a train on their friend so they were all considered adults to defeat a clown?
I mean, there is almost certainly no “The List”, “2003-02-23: Donald John Trump, 3 pedophilia, paid by bank transfer”.
There are terabytes of call logs, text messages, videos, photos, location logs, witness testimonies, whatever samples, and fuck knows what else.Stephen King is absolutely the next person I think is going to have some heinous shit come out about him, like happened with Gaiman. Too many years writing in a cocaine haze, on record defenses of Woody Allen marrying the step daughter he raised, the whole thing with the ending of IT.
Not commenting on the Epstein List, tbh it’s political football and I don’t know if we’ll ever have anything confirmed until well after anyone who could be impacted by it is gone. King’s just one of those people who if you look close enough there’s reasons to be suspicious, but who is such an industry giant that I think no one wants to say anything.
Huh. I thought he publicly quit twitter and moved to
blue skythreads?https://xcancel.com/stephenking/status/1857165864346267891?s=46&t=PJVWm80PofrGWNJIfp3Bsw
I was just reading up on this subject, and for the life of me, even if King believes this to be true, I can’t understand why he wouldn’t just keep his trap shut.
I think there are two different lists people are talking about. One of them definitely exists, and the other one may or may not exist.
There is no doubt that law enforcement has created a list of Epstein’s clients. It was even the subject of a judge’s order. There are probably many such lists of people who have definitely given Epstein money, for example.
The question is whether there was some sort of list that Epstein kept himself, which probably would only be useful for blackmail purposes. If there is no blackmail intended, then Epstein probably would have intentionally avoided making such a list, which would also incriminate himself and could possibly get him killed. The existence of this list was originally asserted by right wing conspiracy theorists during Biden’s presidency. It seems the only person who has confirmed this list exists is Pam Bondi, who is completely incompetent, but lies frequently in order to cover for her incompetence.
This list may or may not exist. But I think if you assert at this point that it doesn’t exist, it only makes you look like a pedophile. It seems the height of stupidity to say that it doesn’t exist if you don’t have a horse in the race.
Epstein probably would have intentionally avoided making such a list, which would also incriminate himself and could possibly get him killed
Exactly. If such a list existed he would surely not survive long in jai … oh
I’d like to remind this thread not to jump to conclusions. It’s not exactly unheard of for a notorious coke addict to be confidently wrong about something. I’ll believe he’s a sicko when I see his name on the list and not a second sooner.
Edit: Am I really being downvoted for not immediately joining a mob and instead waiting for proof? “We did it
redditlemmy!”I have a suggestion: Just assume every billionaire diddles kids anyway.
nah, his books says otherwise, it had tons of references to pedophelia in it.
That’s like saying everyone who writes a murder mystery is a murderer.
While that’s accurate, there’s also IT.
The book has a completely unnecessary, random pre-teen orgy in a sewer.
Of all the things to publicly tell on yourself with. Damn man.
Woah everybody is going wild and jumping on Stephen King like piranhas haha. He said one vague things and now everyone here is accusing him of being a pedophile. Fucking crazy!
Nobody is going to release a real list because it will exclusively hurt the rich and powerful.
Trump Part 1 didn’t, Biden didn’t, Trump won’t do it now.
There definitely is a list. Probably not a spreadsheet or a black book, but you have to make schedules and appointments work. Double booking diddlers is bad business. There are records.
What has been established by the media is that there is a list (whether true or not) and being on that list is damning. Unfortunately we’re at a point where if a list is released, anyone with a brain would have to doubt it as being nothing more than a political tool, and anyone without a brain will immediately try to crucify anyone on it.
All the back and forth and hemming and hawing buys time to figure out who to put on the list. Get all the Democrat names you like, but finding enough Republicans to put on the list, but not anyone who’ll rat (preferably dead) is the tricky part. Gotta make it halfway believable.
It’s sad that instead of bringing the worst people in our society to justice, this will either be swept under the rug or set fire to the Reichstag.
Wow, what a massive POS, and misusing “UFO” to boot. Yeah, everyone has seen something flying that they couldn’t identify at some point or another. “UFO” does not automatically mean “extraterrestrial spacecraft.”
Yeah that analogy is a pretty shitty one. There are legitimate reasons to be skeptical about UFOs/UAPs/Flying Saucers, or whatever you want to call them, even if I do not believe in batshit crazy conspiracies related to them. There are no reasons to believe that Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy can be real, that is just folklore.
Shocking that someone like him, would do such a ill-conceived analogy, even if anyone considers that in modern society, alien shit can be considered folklore, it is still very much within the realm of possibility.
Shocking that someone like him would do such a ill-conceived analogy
It really was notable. I agree with another commenter who said King’s substance abuse past seems to be catching up with him. He sounds like a snarky right-wing asshole, and he used to be better than that.
Yeah… All dude had to say was, “Yeah, I meant of course that a literal list of clients with the big fat title “Client List” doesn’t exist.” Instead he doubles down? Why is everyone suddenly just a balls to the wall massive troll and douche? Man, fuck these people so hard they can never rape children or protect those that do again.
Also:
This also reminded me that in his short story “The Jaunt” Stephen King felt the need to include the following lines for no apparent reason:
Ricky and Pat were watching him seriously, his son twelve, his daughter nine. He told himself again that Ricky would be deep in the swamp of puberty and his daughter would likely be developing breast by the time they got back to earth, and again found it difficult to believe.
And the graphic description of a child being raped in “The Library Policeman”
And the sewers scene in IT.
Theres also a short story where a daughter, now grown, dwells on her dad cumming with his daughter in his lap during an eclipse when she was like 9.
JFC how much of this shit is there?
Almost all of his works, especially the earlier ones during his coke years, are sprinkled throughout with unnecessary sexualization of teenage girls.
This.
Everyone knows the scene from IT and how disgusting it is but many do not understand that King has a long history of pedophilic tendencies when writing teenage girls in almost all of his works.
In Carrie he has a section that takes an odd focus on how nice her legs look, in Under the Dome there is a lengthy description of an pubescent girl’s pubic hair, etc…
Like, I get he is a horror writer and that means depicting scenes that are intentionally written to be uncomfortable is part of the genre, which includes scenes of sexual violence and abuse, but there are ways to accomplish these depictions without the unnecessary sexualization of underage girls.
I’m confused. Epstein definitely did the crimes of trafficking children to be raped by wealthy people.
Why would a client list not be a real?
I think it’s very possible there isn’t an actual “client list”.
I think it’s more about making a list of visitors to the island that have somehow supported Epstein around that time.
“Have some fun on my island. Also, can you help me get a loan and this bill passed?”
It’s really funny how all this denial is focused on the existence of a concrete “list.” What everybody means, and what anyone honest knows, is that the request is for the release of a list of the people who went to the Epstein island and were associated with the convicted child sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein himself.
If you can convict Maxwell, there is evidence of what happened. Whether or not someone has already written a list is completely irrelevant.
There are exactly two types of people who would deny this:
- Die hard, believe-anything-Trump-is-saying-today, MAGA faithful
- paedophiles or people otherwise on the list
I wonder which one Stephen King is…
3rd)people that are protecting megadonors/donors/executives of coporations or hollywood.
Man, who would’ve thought that the guy who wrote a child orgy scene would turn out to be a pedophile? Edit: Didn’t expect this to blow up and result in multiple bans… whoops.
I’ve never read It or cared. I can’t see the removed comments.
However, are we really banning people for defending artistic license to write about obscene shit in a horror story? Are pearl clutchers claiming that shit needs justification? That’s who we are? Awesome.
Stephen King is on the list.
I think this is pretty unlikely, but will apologize if im wrong. My logic is that Trump already hates King and has openly feuded with him. Since there haven’t been any criminal cases yet, it seems that whatever evidence is in the files wasn’t enough for DOJ to feel like they could win a conviction, but because Trump is a petulant dumb fuck I expect he would have made Bondi bring charges for even the most tenous circumstantial evidence if it was against someone he doesn’t like. But then again Trump may think the files give him leverage over anyone even barely mentioned in the files and not want to lose that leverage, so I could be absolutely wrong.
Well, you have no reason to apologize, at this point, everyone is just speculating. However, I think the only reasonable and logical explanation, is that Stephen King is somehow, involved. He never was in any capacity or position to know everything in the case in detail. So he’s either lying about his certainty and knowledge, or he is involved, no other inference can be made.
I think that’s the only reason for this change in tune from the guy.
IMO, it’s blatant and transparent.
