I doubt the cost of owning a thing end with the price of purchase. At least for boat you have to park it somewhere, maintenance for a yacht probably gonna cost a lot because it’s specialised. That’s why it’s usually for people with a lot of extra money to own one.
Yes it’s just like owning a car! Which we primarily use to get to work and earn money to pay for the car!!! What do you do in a boat??? Oh ya!!! Not working and scoot around all day. Must be nice!
A boat like this one? You fuckin’ live in it instead of a house (and at a much lower cost).
I mean, not this exact one from the article because it was a rental, but in general a lot of yachts in this ~40’ range are owned by couples and used for the nautical equivalent of #vanlife.
Yeah I sold real estate to a couple who was living out of a boat and traveling the world. He was a retired oil engineer, and it made lots of money and could afford to stay around and do nothing his whole life. That’s the point. It’s a position of comfort and personal decision. Just like van life Lmfaoo: rich kids pretending to be vagrant hippies. I spent a lot of time with them as a real vagrant hippie.
Lot’s of people have hobby cars. I don’t own a second car or a boat but I don’t consider everyone who has one rich. Those people still go to work every day and save for retirement. We’re talking about good wage job, not being a millionaire.
Right and I’m talking about how the good wage jobs have slowly disappeared over the last 20 years. I’m talking the devaluation of our currency and inflation of our necessities has not kept up with meager wage growth. They’re gonna offshore your job soon enough or replace you with AI. If you are still in the sailboat owning class, you are a demographic that’s getting more unobtainable to the non sailboat class. You don’t feel like you’re rich, but you were the net beneficiary of all of the subsidies and money printing of your own a house and a 401k.
What ever you feel like brother, we’re in a post constitutional law America. If you feel like the system is going to protect you from the people it hurts then I guess fight the poors, if not idk do anything in your power to fight for democracy and decency? I’m just a casual observer for now, but I’m more focused on the food supply chain than the obvious authoritarianism. Remember during Covid when people were hoarding toilet paper? Overcharging for masks? Idk about you but I’m working on my food production lol
Why would I fight for democracy if the masses see me as their enemy? That’s what I mean. If everyone with more money they you (even wage workers) is the enemy than I guess I have to side with the system that protects me. What other choice do I have? Sacrifice my life for the good of the common people? Who am I? Prometheus?
Lmao: this country can’t even come together and agree that the richest 10,000 people can afford some austerity with the rest of us. I don’t think anyone needs to sacrifice their life for anything personally. I think we can all probably sacrifice some comforts for the sake of unity and equality, but I really think we can just sacrifice the billionaires, metaphorically I suppose. Or maybe we can just keep holding elections, voting more austerity for ourselves, more debt for our grand children, and more yachts for 0.000001%, and the promise that your kids won’t have to live like the second class citizens you have created.
Ok, so you’re saying that it’a enough for me to support higher taxes for the rich and we’ll be cool? The poor masses wont kill me in the class war even if I do have a yacht?
Where do you draw the line? Who do you consider a “rich fuck”? I know a carpenter who restored an ultra light airplane. This rich fuck better watch out when the class war comes!
The real class war will be between people who ate yesterday and people who did not eat yesterday.
The billionaire class wants you to think someone with a million dollars is your enemy. And they want the millionaire to think you are their enemy.
But you know what the difference between a million dollars and a billion dollars is? About a billion dollars.
The enemy is the ultrawealthy, and the more we remind the vaguely rich about this, the better our chances of actually changing things. At least that’s how I see it.
My enemy is the one that is being incentivized to uphold the current government through their individual benefit in the face of my suffering. Most of this country is the enemy of itself and it always has been.
I don’t know who you consider a rich fuck but a yacht like this cost maybe $70k. It’s not much different than owning a car.
I doubt the cost of owning a thing end with the price of purchase. At least for boat you have to park it somewhere, maintenance for a yacht probably gonna cost a lot because it’s specialised. That’s why it’s usually for people with a lot of extra money to own one.
And everyone has a $70k car, right?
The people in here defending private sailboats like it’s something anyone can do is insane.
Yeah let me just go out and drop $70k on a thing I use a few times a year in the water. Nothing rich-person about that…
I think it’s less about acting like it’s something anyone can do, and more about acting like it’s something people who aren’t ultrawealthy can do.
Having wealth isn’t inherently bad. It’s the distribution of wealth that has fucked our system.
Check this out for some context.
The initial cost of a boat is like 1% of what the person ends up spending to maintain it.
There is a reason why people say that boats are, “a hole in the water to throw your money into”
Yes it’s just like owning a car! Which we primarily use to get to work and earn money to pay for the car!!! What do you do in a boat??? Oh ya!!! Not working and scoot around all day. Must be nice!
A boat like this one? You fuckin’ live in it instead of a house (and at a much lower cost).
I mean, not this exact one from the article because it was a rental, but in general a lot of yachts in this ~40’ range are owned by couples and used for the nautical equivalent of #vanlife.
Yeah I sold real estate to a couple who was living out of a boat and traveling the world. He was a retired oil engineer, and it made lots of money and could afford to stay around and do nothing his whole life. That’s the point. It’s a position of comfort and personal decision. Just like van life Lmfaoo: rich kids pretending to be vagrant hippies. I spent a lot of time with them as a real vagrant hippie.
Lot’s of people have hobby cars. I don’t own a second car or a boat but I don’t consider everyone who has one rich. Those people still go to work every day and save for retirement. We’re talking about good wage job, not being a millionaire.
Right and I’m talking about how the good wage jobs have slowly disappeared over the last 20 years. I’m talking the devaluation of our currency and inflation of our necessities has not kept up with meager wage growth. They’re gonna offshore your job soon enough or replace you with AI. If you are still in the sailboat owning class, you are a demographic that’s getting more unobtainable to the non sailboat class. You don’t feel like you’re rich, but you were the net beneficiary of all of the subsidies and money printing of your own a house and a 401k.
So what am I supposed to do? Donate my house to the homeless? Or simply buy a gun and get ready to fights the poors when class war begins?
What ever you feel like brother, we’re in a post constitutional law America. If you feel like the system is going to protect you from the people it hurts then I guess fight the poors, if not idk do anything in your power to fight for democracy and decency? I’m just a casual observer for now, but I’m more focused on the food supply chain than the obvious authoritarianism. Remember during Covid when people were hoarding toilet paper? Overcharging for masks? Idk about you but I’m working on my food production lol
Why would I fight for democracy if the masses see me as their enemy? That’s what I mean. If everyone with more money they you (even wage workers) is the enemy than I guess I have to side with the system that protects me. What other choice do I have? Sacrifice my life for the good of the common people? Who am I? Prometheus?
Lmao: this country can’t even come together and agree that the richest 10,000 people can afford some austerity with the rest of us. I don’t think anyone needs to sacrifice their life for anything personally. I think we can all probably sacrifice some comforts for the sake of unity and equality, but I really think we can just sacrifice the billionaires, metaphorically I suppose. Or maybe we can just keep holding elections, voting more austerity for ourselves, more debt for our grand children, and more yachts for 0.000001%, and the promise that your kids won’t have to live like the second class citizens you have created.
Ok, so you’re saying that it’a enough for me to support higher taxes for the rich and we’ll be cool? The poor masses wont kill me in the class war even if I do have a yacht?
Shit, I hadn’t thought of that, the poor, poor people who can afford $70,000 recreation craft. Won’t someone think of the sailboat owners.
Where do you draw the line? Who do you consider a “rich fuck”? I know a carpenter who restored an ultra light airplane. This rich fuck better watch out when the class war comes!
If you’re not living in a tent in a public park then you don’t deserve to live.
And people wonder why everyone hates leftists.
The real class war will be between people who ate yesterday and people who did not eat yesterday. I’m pretty sure there’s some food on that boat.
The billionaire class wants you to think someone with a million dollars is your enemy. And they want the millionaire to think you are their enemy.
But you know what the difference between a million dollars and a billion dollars is? About a billion dollars.
The enemy is the ultrawealthy, and the more we remind the vaguely rich about this, the better our chances of actually changing things. At least that’s how I see it.
Check this out for context.
My enemy is the one that is being incentivized to uphold the current government through their individual benefit in the face of my suffering. Most of this country is the enemy of itself and it always has been.
The millionaire class is the minority of the population who has enough time to engage in politics and prop up the billionaire class 🫡
I ate yesterday. You’re saying I’m in the same boat (pun intended) as Bezos?
For now. Give it another 12 months for poor crop planning and trade wars to really kick in
My car cost €8000, and that’s also about the budget I have for a boat.
My house cost $100k, and that’s also about the budget I have for a live-aboard boat.