• ViatorOmnium@piefed.social
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    1 month ago

    It’s not even the same level of propaganda. This time even US intelligence agencies are saying there are no WMD and that Iran was still years away from being able to have one. On the other hand Netanyahu has spent literal decades saying Iran is going to have nukes by next week.

    • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
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      1 month ago

      I mean, do you want to wait until they actually do have them? I’m not familiar with what Netanyahu has said, but years away seems like a good time to disrupt their program.

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 month ago

        I mean hey, your username is on point for your opinion here but uh, no.

        No, Netanyahu in particular has been stating Iran will have a nuke in months since about 1995.

        Go check the Daily Show’s (or maybe its Jon Stewart’s?) YT channel for a quick montage recap of Bibi literally claiming this ssme thing for 30 fucking years.

        It is 30 years later, and even the official consensus of the US’s own intelligence communities is that Iran does not have a nuke, cannot achieve enrichment beyond about 60%.

        And that only even happened because Trump trashed Obama’s deal with Iran to keep enrichment to only low grade, nuclear power plant levels… which was working, and they were adhering to, and letting the IAEA in to verify.

        Meanwhile they are being bombarded by a hostile nation state that has had nuclear weapons since roughly 1970, that constantly does everything it can to lie about that, to prevent IAEA inspectors from being assigned to them.

        That nation state is Israel, if that wasn’t clear.

        So… Iran was previously cooperative and diplomatic.

        Then Trump was a backstabbing, bellicose buffoon, and Iran… didn’t even revert to MAD, they reverted to roughly 2 steps below MAD, as you’d have to run the 60% enriched uranium through an entire other industrial process to get it to weapons grade, which no one believes they can currently do, and then make that into actual bombs, which is a whole other thing entirely.

        The Iranians have already shown themselves to be quite capable of rational negotiations about nukes, and adhere to agreements.

        It is Israel and the US who have been irrational, agressive and underhanded, who have gone back on their word, and forced Iran into an impossible situation from their POV.

        We could just maybe not act like insane warmongers, and Iran would likely go back to the negotiating table… us assuring them we will stop assasinating their negotiators might be a good first step.