• cm0002@lemmy.cafeOP
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      Lol it’s ok, they do things purposefully like that to an extent to get that result. Like if you go to Lemmygrad or Hex’s homepage its quite clear you’re somewhere weird that needs further investigation.

      You go-to lemmy.mls homepage and it looks like a normal “privacy focused” instance. Until you innocently comment in support of Ukraine or something and find yourself being dunked on and banned for supporting a “Nazi regime”

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          If you could be so kind as to list the number of times NATO has gone on an offensive war, I’ll be waiting.

          Russia has a history of invading its neighbors, with several notable examples including the Soviet invasions of Hungary in 1956, Czechoslovakia in 1968, and Afghanistan in 1979. More recently, Russia invaded and occupied Crimea in 2014 and has been involved in conflicts in Georgia and Ukraine.

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            Yugoslavia, Afganistan, Bosnia, Serbia & even Africa; I can go on. They violate international law like Israelis. BTW Russia (via Putin) WANTED to be in NATO.

            Richard Medhurst covers this in details buddy. Not only that; usage of Depleted uranium shells & cluster ammunitions, Hooo boy.

            Don’t try that whataboutism here. It’s a mafia protection racket with USA being the head-honcho. Everyone knows this, were you living under a rock ?

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      I definitely didn’t know how heated people were towards .ml when I joined. istg I’m not a tankie.

  • ora@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I’m personally not on lemmy.ml but they literally advertise what their ideology is. If I go to a meeting of socialists in my community, I am expected to be in agreement with, or at least tolerant of, socialist viewpoints. If you’re entering lemmy.ml you’re expected to tolerate ML viewpoints, obviously.

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      Yes but being federated with them means they can have their conversation in your space or overrun it, hence why op is saying it would be better to defederate

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        That’s why instances, communities, and users can be blocked and banned. If ‘their conversation’ is not allowed in ‘your space’ then do the thing and move on.

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            ‘Do the thing’ is using the tools a user has at their disposal to block other users. Communities can block and ban users too.

            Defederation over moderation is not the thing I am suggesting. Especially not as part of a multiyear campaign perpetuating a bad-faith feedback loop.

    • cm0002@lemmy.cafeOP
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      They do not, Hex and Grad, yes. This is the current homepage of lemmy.ml, nothing indicates them being a Tankie Instance supporting Authoritarian regimes and their misinformation:

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        The ML stands for Marxist-Leninist. I recall it being clarified better when I last visited several years ago. “What is Lemmy.ml?” is a link that expands on the instance as “niche” rather than mainstream.

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              And you’re absolutely free to use it that way if the registry that handles is OK with it, but you just can’t expect people to instantly realize that your .tf site is a Team Fortress related site based on just the TLD, because the .tf doesn’t officially have anything to do with TF2, that was my point.

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                It’s more popular for team fortress 2 than for the country its from. I don’t even remember what country its from without looking it up. If I recall its a nation in southern Africa?

                Either way, its more used for the funny hat game than the nation itself.

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    Yeah, Hexbear and Lemmygrad are instant blocks. For .ml, you either joined on the wrong instance or are too deep into communist dreams

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      Nobody told me all this when I signed up. I was simply instructed to pick an instance, and I did.

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        Well, luckily, you can make an account elsewhere and not have people assume you’re an asshole because you associate (unknowingly) with assholes

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          This is, why Lemmy will probably never be successful. People are told to choose any instance and they choose the biggest ones, because that’s also probably the one with the most content and activity. And after that other people will tell them they made a bad choice and it’s their own fault.

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              What’s the easiest way to switch instances? I didn’t know any of this. I just wanted to get away from reddit and still engage with communities focused on my hobbies… 😔

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                Create an account on another other instance and export/import your settings. I don’t think it carries over your posts and comments but everything else probably will like your communities, blocks and preferences.

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        This is one of the downsides to Lemmy, you’re expected to understand what the hell an instance is before you even use the platform.

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    .world needs .ml else it would just become Reddit 2.0, just as boring and asinine, but without the traffic. .world is the kiddie pool… but not everyone knows how to swim, so it fills an important role!

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      But your logic supports .world defederating .ml so that when a user is ready to “leave the kiddie pool” they do so by moving to a wider instance, like .zip

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        Everyone needs a taste of anti-imperialist and non-Western takes, either for their sanity or just for their ideological development. I know Americans are gonna need them since the empire is coming home with full force, for instance. Without them, without ‘radicals’ like those in .ml, the folks will just be fed a new narrative to curtail their cognitive dissonance (it’s the most imperceptible of buzzes for the least cerebral among us but it’s still there) and they’ll eat it up because that’s all they’re exposed to. So, no, they should be connected, for the sake of exposure. It’s important too for those more .ml-coded to read, post and quickly check the downvote/upvote ratio in .world just like it was/is on big subreddits to get a feel of what the average literate Westerner, who at least considers discussion important (better than your average American, for instance), is thinking/has been fed recently.

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          Lemmy.ml is not anti-imperialist. They remove anything critical of China and Russia, both imperialist states.

          Instances that are actually anti-imperalism in that they criticise both Western and Russian/Chinese etc imperialism might be lemmy.dbzer0.com or slrpnk.net.

          lemmy.ml is arguably one of the most imperialist instances especially in terms of censorship.

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          Lol, Tankies just simp for authoritarian regimes like Russia and NK that claim to be communistic.

          If you want to pull people to your political side, then you can do so without relying on misinformation and conspiracy theories. Which is unfortunately not what the admins of .ml have chosen to do.

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            I think they are saying it’s important that ML people see more nuanced takes. Though without a coherent paragraph structure it’s difficult to tell.

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              They’re not here to see “more nuanced takes” nor they care about them. They are here to brigade posts, spread propaganda and make any discussion a pain. You can’t even imagine how often tankies tried to tell me the history of my country is fake and they know the ultimate truth about it all, way better than the people who actually lived that history.