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      Rare to find people with no morals? When it comes to right-wing “morality” I think people will be falling over themselves for these jobs. The high pay will ensure compliance, loyalty, and spinelessness as required. Landing a quarter mil/year job will keep your mouth shut as an uneducated tool - or turn you into another Arpaio.

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    Lies. From ZipRecruiter:

    ICE agent salaries in Florida vary, but average around $46,857 annually. Top earners can make upwards of $62,025 per year.

    One might be able to cherry pick the post’s numbers from a rare/weird job slot, but no, they’re not banking.

    FFS people, have you not learned by now that if a statement is outrageous you need to fact check?!

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      RN is an associates degree too. They probably should have used paramedics if they were really trying to go for underpaid medical workers.

      That being said it DOES mention supervisors/managers. Not the rank and file gestapo.

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    You can do that when MAGA makes your budget bigger than the FBI, the DEA, and the federal Bureau of Prisons combined.

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    What if we flood the jobs with good hearted people in maga hats, and race to improve conditions, let lawyers in, release actual citizens and people with valid visas, transfer the others to other facilities and then “accidentally” loes track of them in transit? If it’s just them constantly having to hire and then fire people constantly while brute forcing improvements it would at the very least fuck up their system and at best actually help people.

    There is technically a non zero chance it could work, even if it’s improbable.

    Please criticize me brutally

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      What if we flood the jobs with good hearted people

      You’re talking about a literal gestapo. It’s a jobs program for fascists. Nazis aren’t hiring nice people and nice people aren’t reforming nazism.

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      What if we flood the jobs with good hearted people in maga hats

      They did this joke in “I’m a Virgo” already

      Studying to become an executioner because I oppose the death penalty

      I think what you’re missing in this ad is that you don’t ever get the resources to do things “correctly”. Alligator Alcatraz is a great example. The facility is falling apart mere days after construction. Plumbing doesn’t work. Electricity doesn’t work. The buildings are flooding. They don’t have enough food or facilities to prepare it. They don’t have working vehicles. All that $600M contractor money is just getting pocketed by people over your head.

      You’re being sent in there to work 12 hour+ shifts in rooms full of caged people who are often homeless, don’t speak English, malnourished, sick, and very angry about it.

      Like, the only remotely ethical thing you can do in that situation is to let them out. And even then, you’re letting them out into the middle of the Everglades.

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        I’ve never seen ‘I’m a Virgo’ it is a very apt metaphor. This is what I wanted to know, thank you!

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      There’s already no requirements and you really only need to omit the truth in your vague dogwhistly interview.

      “I’m just fed up with what’s been allowed to happen in our country!”

      “It’s high time we did something about these illegals (convicted felon and corrupt oligarchy) that ruin everything for the rest of us!”

      “These people need to go back where they belong (safe in their communities)!”

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      what are you trying to achieve? “ICE but with good people?” their job is to violate the constitutional rights of brown people and ship them off to concentration camps without due process. please think before you speak.

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    I mean I get that it sucks that ICE agents of any level are well paid, but why are we comparing supervisory roles to entry level? School administrators are paid pretty highly too…

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      I think this part ties it together?

      Both jobs require ZERO education requirement.

      Do nurses and teachers get hired at any level with zero education requirement?

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        Do nurses and teachers get hired at any level with zero education requirement?

        A number of states have tried exempting teaching positions from higher education requirements.

        In response to Oklahoma’s continued teacher shortage, lawmakers passed a measure that no longer requires educators to have a college degree in order to teach permanently in public schools.

        All a prospective educator needs now is a high school diploma and “distinguished qualifications” in their field to make them eligible to teach full time in K-12 classrooms. Those individuals don’t have to work toward a teaching certificate or take college classes, and legislators gave local districts latitude to determine what meets the “distinguished qualifications” threshold.

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        Why does the education level matter? Plenty of important jobs don’t require more than a high school diploma. They are not lesser because of it. If ICE’s job was handing out puppies to depressed people to cheer them up then I wouldn’t give a fuck that you didn’t need a college degree to do that. Heck some states have been so desperate for teachers/nurses that the education requirements have been largely dropped for those too.

        The problem with ICE isn’t that it requires little education or that it’s well-paid, it’s that it’s whole purpose is being inhumane.

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      Also you need WAY more teachers and nurses per capita than you do concentration camp guards / administrators. In fact there are lots of valid-sounding reasons for the disparity seen here. And like, everyone here knows it’s all bullshit & the reason is because the suppression of education is the free space in “fash bingo”. But the uninformed observers sure are easily satisfied with those damned easy answers, aren’t they.

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        Teaching is a noble profession. People will do it for minimal compensation. “You can tell this by the way that it is.”

        Trading your soul and being asked to commit atrocities on the cheap is a hard sell. They’ll need to pay them so well they are afraid to lose such a lucrative gig and will abandon their morals for it. A shit economy actually strengthens this effect further.

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          Can I take the job for a while and be comically inept and borderline corrupt like Colonel Klink in Hogans Heroes?

          “WERE PAYING YOU OVER $300,000 A YEAR AND YOU HAVE HAD 50% ESCAPES!?!”

          “Yeah… its the damnedest thing…”

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            If you think you can do so and not be found out, charged with treason and summarily executed like the people who did similar in Nazi occupied territory. If you don’t think you are comfortable with that possibility, probably best to avoid the situation.

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          Teaching is a noble profession. People will do it for minimal compensation.

          This is among the dumbest things that I regularly hear.

          I’ve also heard that kids will work in mines for minimal compensation because it’s so noble.

          Moral bullshit in service to capitalist oppression.

          Trading your soul and being asked to commit atrocities on the cheap is a hard sell.

          It’s a very easy sell for fascists without a soul. It’s literally what they’ve been organizing for. It’s a fundamental platform of their daddy.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_skin

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            Adults have more agency than children. We know teachers will work for less because they do. We also know some adults take advantage of children, because they do. They arent related.

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        Also you need WAY more teachers and nurses per capita than you do concentration camp guards / administrators

        Not for long.

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      why are we comparing supervisory roles to entry level?

      Top tier scumbag deserves less than entry level human.

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    This is not some kind of clerical error. This is a primary purpose of the state. It literally prints money to violently enforce capitalism.

    Any calls for teachers to be paid similarly are extremely naive at best, reactionary reformism at worst.

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    This man is SO STUPID! We LITERALLY just ELIMINATED my VA Benefits and my Child’s Education and my Wife’s Healthcare so we could AFFORD things like This! AND if we Eliminate MORE Teachers we can give ICE even MORE Money and Elon Musk even MORE Government Contracts!

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    Oh so, now you just want to give away health care and education to the undeserving?!

    Enjoy your one way ticket to the concentration camp, while we Make America Great Again.