Wait, so the dude honked after her because she was speeding 20 above the limit (imo justified), and she’s pretending of taking the high road by slowing down 30 under the limit just to spite him for her being wrong? 🤔
Or maybe it’s oddly phrased and he was going 30 over and the petty lane is justified. (Personally I’d go 40-45, just to be not too slow as to be dangerous).
Have you ever slipped and accidentally honked at someone?
How is that even possible?
The only reason I accept to not let these people pass is if it forces you do something unsafe, like throwing yourself over to the next lane and slamming on the brakes to match speed with the other cars. Otherwise just give them the lane and let them be a reckless ass somewhere else away from you. Safer that way. It’s not your job to enforce traffic rules.
Exactly. You have no clue why they’re speeding either. Sure it could be some a-hole, but it could also be someone with a medical situation, or someone that’s about to poop their pants.
When I was younger I used to stay in the lane. Now I move over if it’s safe, and let them pass. Not worth the chance of accidentally upsetting a psycho.
I agree it’s safer to let them pass, but a medical (or personal) emergency does not give you the right to endanger other people on the road by driving fast and/or recklessly. That’s why they paint priority vehicles in bright colours and put flashing lights on them - to make it safer for everyone.
If you have a medical emergency, you call an ambulance. Yes, they will have to drive to you first, but care starts when they arrive. If the emergency isn’t big enough to get an ambulance, there’s no reason to drive fast either.
Being in the US, I’d order an uber before I call for an ambulance. Even with insurance I’m afraid to test that debt machine.
Have you seen how expensive an ambulance ride is?
This is why I’m in favor of public transit. So many people should not be on the road. This goes for the granny under the speed limit drivers and the insane road ragers.
I’ve never understood why people pick on drivers under the speed limit. It’s called a limit, why do we expect people to be over it?
There are speed limits in both directions, in every jurisdiction I’m familiar with it’s illegal to drive both too fast and too slow, to exceed the posted speed limit or to drive so slowly that it impedes other traffic.
Oh, that’s very interesting. Where I live there are only upper speed limits on most roads except highways. On other roads you can drive as slowly as you want, though everyone will overtake you if they can or honk at you if you don’t.
Where I live there are only upper speed limits on most roads except highways. On other roads you can drive as slowly as you want,
Are you sure that you really don’t have any traffic rules against causing a hazard or impeding traffic flow by being too slow? That seems both unusual and unsafe to me.
Where I’m from an officer can always pull you over for “reckless driving” or “impeding traffic”. The argument can literally be made that you’re driving dangerously no matter how fast you go. These days I just stick to the literal posted speed (as long as road conditions and traffic allow) and I’ll let a lawyer defend me from any citations. I stay in the slow lane and am constantly getting passed but I’ll be damned before I get another ticket for going 6 over.
The argument can literally be made that you’re driving dangerously no matter how fast you go.
Well, that’s certainly true also in every jurisdiction I’m familiar with, as it should be, common sense, really.
Idk I don’t think an officer should have the right to pull over a person driving the posted speed limit in clear weather with no other proximate reason but maybe I’m insane.
Depending where it is, a figure of speech up to a certain point of where they actual enforce it, most cops don’t even go the speed limit on some roads and highways.
They’re low and out dated as fuck, and mostly just a money grab, again, depending on the street and the limit, for example excluding in front of schools and parks
because they are assholes who think anyone going slower than them is stupid and they are very smart and the speed limit should not apply to such very smart people.
Once she gets to work she finds a sign taped to the back of the car saying “honk it’s my birthday”
Love reading threads about driving cause everyone is very upset for no discernible reason.
Driving is inherently stressful. Hell, merely being around cars is proven to negatively impact your health: https://www.eea.europa.eu/en/newsroom/editorial/are-you-noticing-the-harmful-noise
Driving seems to bring out the second-worst in people.
Driving is dangerous, and intentionally making it more dangerous deserves anger
I’ll do something similar to the OP. If I’m doing 29 in a 25 and you ride my ass, we will now do 24 in a 25. I like to think I’ve improved the safety of the local roadway. I won’t negotiate with terrorists.
The beauty of this comment is that it could be in support of either position.
anger
Is a big reason why it’s dangerous
This is why we should move the horb somewhere and have great big spikes on the steering wheel - the danger should have never been outsourced to others.
I get, i know it’ll never take off, but the current madness of 2T shockers is indefensible to me
What to do when you have a tailgater behind you:
- Foot off the gas.
- Wait until the tailgater tries to overtake you.
- PIT maneuver.
- Keep driving safely.
You know, I get it, they’re probably just an asshole. Maybe they’re having an emergency, though. How about just letting them get around in case there is a good reason for driving recklessly? Or maybe just in case they’re nuts enough to make things violent?
Going 20 is the definition of “letting them pass”. Or should she have ran off the road so the tailgating ahole could continue on going 90 in a 50 zone?
Move out of the passing lane generally is the simple and legal thing to do.
I mean, the text say the guy honked for going “70 in a 50”.
If you take it at face value, the person posting is the asshole and a terrible driver endangering everybody on the road.
And the other guy is the bigger asshole for honking at the poster for going too slowly when she’s doing 20 over.
If you take it all at face value, that is.
No one is in danger strictly because of 20 over. Please. Our speed limits are insane and not grounded in safety.
The forces involved in a collision grow exponentially with speed. It’s basic physics
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 bravo. Further showing the lack of understanding. Just fantastic.
No one is in danger strictly because of 20 over
More speed = more danger. Simple as that.
Source: https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety/topics-tips/speeding
I never really looked into this (relation between speed limits and accidents/safety), so I figured I’d verify your statement with a quick google search and it turns out you’ve got it all wrong. There is a deep well established link between speed limits and accident risk, see for example here:
Now you know! :)
We’re talking about speeding and you post some study about absolute speed? GTFO🤣.
You want to talk about absolute risk? What’s the increase in risk when you set an arbitrarily low speed limit on a highway clearly able to handle high speeds? When you look at the reality of induced road rage and creating large deltas in speed?
You’d be that politician giving yourself a pat on the back while ignoring the actual effects of your policy.
Oh hey look a guy on the internet who doesn’t when someone contradicts his baseless claims with evidence. There’s something you don’t see every day.
Oh hey, some guy mouthing off who doesn’t understand how relative and absolute risk work who just went off to have Google to search for the phrase that validates their assumptions. Rare sighting indeed.
Facts don’t care about your feelings. You’ve presented zero evidence to the contrary, how are you this confident about your assertion? This is such a joke
I would actually hear you answer these questions. I don’t see how lengthening break zones, decreasing reaction time and so on wouldn’t increase risks more than people being getting dangerously mad at the speedlimit. And as a cronic speeder i would like to have something other than shrugs and shitty excuse for my behavior.
Most people don’t drive speed limits. They drive the speed the road is designed for. When you put arbitrarily slow limits on highways most speed. Those that don’t then create dangerous speed deltas and road rage. These well known behaviors are already included and designed into the stats and engineering.
Typically highways will have higher percentage of fatal incidents but a much much much lower frequency and lower absolute number per mile. Well designed variable rate highways, even with a higher % fatality rate overall are safer.
NHTSA Road Type Crash Rate (per 100M VMT) Fatality Rate (per 100M VMT)
Urban Local Roads ~350–500+ ~1.5–2.0 Rural Local Roads ~200–300 ~2.0–3.0 Urban Collectors ~200–300 ~1.0–1.5 Urban Arterials ~100–200 ~1.2–1.8 Rural Arterials ~80–150 ~1.5–2.5 Urban Freeways/Interstates ~60–100 ~0.5–1.0 Rural Interstates ~40–80 ~0.6–1.3
By pushing traffic more quickly and reducing congestion you’ll lower the totals while increasing the frequency that an individual is killed.
The speed must be designed into the infrastructure and if you’re designing roads where you commonly have a 20 mph delta it’s likely a shitty designed urban artery. And unless you’re going to invest in trains and start kicking people off the road or put them into debt for speeding, people are going to do what makes sense at the time.
The other person would have to be doing 70 as well, in order to honk at them.
She’s taking selfies while driving, clearly she’s the better person
I could be wrong but it looks like a dual direction dash cam. Since it’s the internet, the text and pic might have never been related. Also, the person doing over 70 in a 50 couldn’t overtake at 20? The whole thing seems like rage bait.
Is this lady using her phone while driving, after speeding by 20MPH and thinking it’s a flex? If she uses it at 20MPH I’d bet she uses it at 70 MPH too! Couldn’t this have waited until she was safely off the road?
I expect this is sarcasm (can’t know, because of Poe’s)
But for anyone genuinely thinking this you can see the dashcam source in her glasses reflection.
I take my foot off of the gas pedal, if they don’t pass me by the time I’ve coasted to as slow as idle will take me I assume they aren’t going to and return to the speed I was going previously.
I’ll slow down to exactly the speed limit (which because my speedometer is ~2MPH fast means going slightly below the limit) if someone honks at me for going too slowly. I’ll also specifically not turn right until it’s green if someone behind me honks to turn right on red
I’m a pretty chill driver. I don’t speed, I don’t aggressively lane change or push lights, but if someone thinks their horn will get me drive in a less safe manner I will happily slow them down just a little bit more. If they don’t honk, I’ll happily make it easy for them to pass when it is safe
Yeah, honking at me. And those flashing lights on the roof of their car are really annoying.
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When you repost shit on Lemmy, the repostiness is amplified by 100x.
Kevin vs Karen.
This comment section is a very good case study in why better public transportation is absolutely necessary: a lot of you should not ever drive.
My spirit animal
All fun and games until you get someone willing to escalate 😁
A pit maneuver is easily defendable as an accident if nobody is looking.