• deaf_fish@midwest.social
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    Why is everyone jumping to the psychopath narrative? Is there background on this guy? Why bring up crying children? This feels like a Phy Op to me and some people replying in this post are glowing a bit…

    Edit: Finally after everyone spent all day being mad at me for asking for information, one of you got me some. Thanks alekwithak!

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      Yeah, because killing a huge fucking seagull in front of kids is a totally normal thing to do.

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            Ah, so now we have to figure out if there was intent kill let alone intent to brutally kill. I think this thread is where I am having this discussion , but let me know if you think it is too far off and want to start your own.

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              Tbh, I don’t care what the “intent” was. Swinging an animal by its feet into a wall because it stole your chips is an entirely inappropriate response.

              Like if you kicked a dog in the head because it peed in your lawn. It’s a disgusting and very much non-proportional response.

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                Ok, to be clear. Your argument is that accidently killing a bird makes you a psychopath. Do I have that right?

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                  Yeah! Like that!

                  He accidentally grabbed the bird’s legs, accidentally hulk-smashed it into a wall, accidentally got its blood on his chips, which he accidentally ate while smirking.

                  You’re winning, keep talking!

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      Because killing animals, especially over petty shit, and especially especially in front of others while disregarding their reactions is literally psychopath shit. Your insistence that this is some kind of ‘Phy Op’ just makes you look like one, too. Edit: and to call people out for ‘glowing’ is not helping your case, either.

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        How do we know they intended to kill the bird and not give it a light bonk? Where did you see he disregarded their reactions?

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          "I heard one of the mums say “why did you do that in front of my child?” and he said “it’s vermin, you should teach your children about vermin”

          I said ‘why did you do that’ and he just shrugged his shoulders and walked away’

          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5969923/amp/Pensioner-KILLS-seagull-grabbing-feet-swinging-wall-stole-chip.html

          Sounds like a great guy. He’s lucky to have you here defending him for some reason.

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          Have you simply never used your hands to do anything before? Or maybe you were born without hands?

          I’m just wondering how a human reaches adulthood without understanding what will happen when you nunchuk a seagull into a wall.

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              So you’ve never used your hands to do anything before, got it.

              Are you AI? This is a level of not understanding human strength that seems very ‘I am not human’.

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                Wait so you’re saying everything you do is full force?

                In my experience I can adjust the power and speed I use to do things. This must be blowing your mind.

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                  Imagine making a mistake, it couldn’t be this guy — this guy only takes W’s and can perfectly control his body. Down to his fucking heart rate like Hannibal, wow — us lowly mortals will never compare to the guy with volume sliders on his muscles.

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                  Wtf is this argument? Swinging things applies other forces besides your own power and speed, and since you brought up those two forces you must realize there’s a minimum of both that must be applied in order to swing an object properly and you’d also know full well as Newton’s third law of motion dictates that when said swinging object meets the object at rest that the sum of those forces will be exerted back onto the swinging object. Every choice made equals bird death. He didn’t flick it on the nose, he didn’t show it up slightly, he didn’t swing it into some software brush or a beach ball or an elastic fence, he swung it into a brick wall. A + B = C. Anything else is just conjecture on your end, made in some vain attempt to justify brutish thuggery just because the victim was an animal you don’t respect.

                  Try it yourself. Get about two feet of rope or something. Tie an egg to the end. See exactly how much speed and power you have to use to get it to properly swing. Then swing it into a brick wall and try not to break the egg. Make sure to film the attempt, I’d love to see it.

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    Labour’s weak attitude to immigration is to blame here just letting these thieves just fly into the country!

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    I see the fediverse is composed almost entirely of vegetarians. Feeling bad for a winged rat? Honestly? It’s not like this man is just going around killing animals like Baron Trump…

    I live in the French equivalent of NYC rat wise and trust me, either my cat or I get rid of the pests quickly.

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      Why are you randomly murdering animals you do not plan on eating? Your cat has instincts to kill so they get a pass but what is your excuse?

      Do you not get that killing a seagull like this is not a good thing?

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        It’s really not a big deal, and I don’t understand why it should be. He had a moment of anger (very valid) and what I assume was an immediate, unthinking violent reaction (also understandable but it might have scared some people around, which is not as cool), else the bird would’ve just flown away. I feel bad for the kids watching it, but more so for the dude who just wanted to eat chips in peace. A bird is a bird, and he’s not going around exterminating all birds in existence. Use your heart to give homeless people money, to raise abandoned kids and to stop imperialism and genocide.

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          “ I live in the French equivalent of NYC rat wise and trust me, either my cat or I get rid of the pests quickly. “

          That’s the part Im addressing with my comment about random killing. I’m not talking about the article.

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      If you have no empathy for animals just trying to do their thing, that is a good indicator that you’ll lack empathy for people as well.

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        I understand they’re trying to do their thing, and that’s what happens. He’s not going around torturing birds for his entertainment. And here I’m entirely on the side of humanity, lol, what? I feel bad for the dude, his day was probably ruined.

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          His day was ruined by his own actions, not the loss of a chip. Are you fucking dense?

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            ??? He got assaulted by a winged rat. I’m about to eat chicken right now. It seems like you have a lot of feelings and that’s actually nice and sweet but the direction is wrong IMO.

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          If his day is ruined by losing a bit of food, he needs to find someone to talk to about mental health. No one should be that close to the edge of violent response.

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            He got violently assaulted by a seagull and had a gut reaction with a seagull. I know you wanna equate it semantically to people being problematic with people but, again, unless you’re even more peaceful and selfless than Aang from ATLA, you’re just being emotionally hypocritical. Had he eaten the seagull or composted it to reduce waste, what would the problem be?

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              I’m sorry. I’ve had gut reactions before. Normal humans will swat or punch things.

              It takes thought to grab it by the legs, and slap it on a wall.

              But yeah, if it was just some unconscious reaction, then whatever. But in that case, I’m curious why a fuckin ninja is among the regular population.

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      Would you like it if someone grabbed you by your feet and killed you by swinging you into a wall? What the fuck is wrong with you?

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    as someone who’s had their food stolen by a seagull a few times i once found myself in a fit of petty rage googling “can i kill a seagull” and the answer is no, like legally you cannot, they’re protected birds

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        it does not. Seagulls are protected in: UK, Ireland, all of Europe, all of North America, Mexico, Australia, Japan, Russia, and probably more but i can’t be bothered to go past the first few Google searches to find out

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            I feel like the default is that you aren’t allowed to kill animals. Not as in most laws outlaw killing any animal, just that there are probably a lot of laws about randomly killing animals that aren’t like tiny bugs and stuff. Like you can’t just kill a deer unless you have a hunting permit. You can’t catch fish without a fishing license. Sure, you’re probably allowed to kill animals on your property that are a nuisance or anywhere in defense, but I wouldn’t just assume I can kill a random animal.

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              I think there’s a clear difference between an animal that’s a known nuisance and any other. If a rat and an emu both wander into my yard, the rat’s life is forfeit, but I’m not gonna fuck with the emu for multiple reasons.

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    As an aussie who has had many foods taken by birds including a fucking eagle that stole my burger out of my hands, this is some sociopath shit

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    Humans:

    • Takes all the fish for themselves
    • has bussiness dump to birds perfectly edible but to humans not commercially pretty enough fish bits in the trash.
    • builds apartments on the gulls original habitat

    “wHy Do ThESe SEaguLl KeEP STEalinG FrOm Us”

    I also grew up at the coast and yes they are a menace. But as the saying goes fuck around, find out.

    Imagine if we restored and maintained the habitat and did a daily collection of fish waste to dump near that habitat.

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    Not only is he cruel, he is actually participating in making more powerful Seagulls, the surviving seagulls will be the ones that can steal chips and survive being thrown at a wall. Beware the terminator seagull soon attacking your chips, the walls will not survive!