• Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    11 days ago

    A grill should run on charcoal. It needs to get very hot and that’s literally it.

    There’s a universe where I attach some electronic controller with a PID loop or something to a smoker, to maintain consistent temperatures via damper control. I’m not buying that off the shelf built into the machine though.

    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      A grill should run on charcoal.

      Someone insert the KOTH reference, I’m too tired, I tell you hwat

    • Bluewing@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      While I agree that real charcoal is superior in every way, a good grill and the person running it needs to be able to control the temperature while cooking. It might be just fine to burn those hot dogs or hamburger patties, but if I want to roast a potato or an onion, I need to be able to control the heat to something less than the surface of the sun.

      • JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        11 days ago

        If you don’t know how to control the temp on a cheap charcoal grill, that’s fine, but don’t pretend it can’t be done.

    • Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      Traeger makes pellet smokers. They have a hopper full of wood pellets and a micro controller that feeds in pellets to maintain a set temperature. You can get ones with a temperature probe to stick in the meat and let you know when it’s done, which is what the Wi-Fi is for.

      There’s a legit use case for them because they save a ton of time and effort over smoking the traditional way.

    • grue@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      There’s a universe where I attach some electronic controller with a PID loop or something to a smoker, to maintain consistent temperatures via damper control. I’m not buying that off the shelf built into the machine though.

      I really ought to finish putting together my HeaterMeter.

    • tankfox@midwest.socialEnglish
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      11 days ago

      You’re describing the gravity fed charcoal grills from masterbuilt and I love mine. Especially when I toss in a cast iron pan full of bacon and run it at 450 for half an hour.

      • rem26_art@fedia.io
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        12 days ago

        DRM Ribs. The Salmonella will not die until you pay for Traeger’s $19 a month subscription

        • xavier666@lemmy.umucat.dayEnglish
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          10 days ago

          The Salmonella will not die until

          Oops, RnD team accidentally created indestructible Salmonella bacteria which consumes flesh. Management was pushing RnD to create a better bacteria because hobbyist grill people were killing the bacteria and bypassing the DRM on the grill, but it escaped the lab. It has infected nearly all animals other than sea fish because of proximity. Survivors build floating cities on the sea and thus we have Waterworld!

          • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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            11 days ago

            I’m an immigrant (not a refugee to be clear) and this excerpt absolutely nails the camaraderie aspect of it and the way that living in immigrant neighborhoods/buildings feels. Turns out, Doctorow’s father was born in a refugee camp.

          • grue@lemmy.world
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            11 days ago

            Wow, that’s super-topical in more ways than I had expected. The more I read, the more scarily insightful it gets.

            spoiler
            • The main character being a refugee, with almost all that entails (can’t blame Doctorow for not anticipating it getting this bad)
            • The dystopian collusion between the appliance-rentiers and the landlord, as well as the climax hinging on lack of tenant protections
            • The way capitalism attempts to subsume all critique.

            This is a story that’s important, that everybody needs to read.

        • Midnight Wolf@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          11 days ago

          Skill issue. I eat my food raw. The explosive shits are just me speedrunning my bathroom breaks. Efficiency baby!

        • ssɐqɯnᗡ@quokk.auEnglish
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          11 days ago

          Someone’s gonna crack that shit and release it as a spice and when you open it a cool as fuck midi techno track plays while you crack your ribs.

      • Match!!@pawb.socialEnglish
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        12 days ago

        raw shrimp on a grill staying completely uncooked next to grilled chicken and steak because you don’t have the DRM for SeaPak©️ shrimp (photorealistic, art station, comedy, vivid)

  • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Why does a grill need a screen and buttons? Maybe I’m living in the stone age, but what I call grilling involves putting charcoal to a flame.

    • BCsven@lemmy.ca
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      10 days ago

      When you want to intergrate your smoker into homeassitant so you can adjust it from the office.

    • wolfpack86@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      It’s a smoker, with a port for a temp probe in the meat.

      When you smoke something for 10-12 hours it’s nice to get temp readings from wherever. It might also have automatic control for temperature management.

          • KingPorkChop@lemmy.caEnglish
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            10 days ago

            That’s a pretty basic program with simple software needs.

            If the programming is such shit there is a chance they need connectivity to update it or patch the code once it’s gone into production, it might be best to look into another product.

    • RobotsLeftHand@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      It’s very possible, dare I say preferred, to have a traditional Thanksgiving spread getting made in the kitchen while someone grills up some veggies.

  • Kirsche_z@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    10 days ago

    I don’t understand how we’ve become so dumb that we simply can’t turn a knob for gas and strike a match for a flame. Or, well atleast dumb enough to accept these kinds of shitty products on the “free market.” I understand having convenience in your life, but at the cost of this? AND a higher price all for some “super smoke” and “timer” option.

    Is this the technofeudalist dream? If the next big thing in smart tech is to add ai to grills to “get the perfect sear” or whatever, just kill me.

  • cley_faye@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    Grill, Dehumidifier, Air con, Fridge, Dishwasher, Washing Machine, Lightbulbs, Ovens, Doorknob…

    None of that should be smarter than “press button, get action”.

    • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      11 days ago

      Connected HVAC can be pretty damn great depending on your house. It’s changed my energy usage a lot, and I like being able to adjust temps without walking downstairs in the middle of the night. Although having your thermostat lose cloud support ever 10-15 years is pretty shitty.

      Connected doors are also great for handing out virtual keys and ensuring that stuff is shut and locked when you’re away.

      • cley_faye@lemmy.world
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        10 days ago

        I’m warry of electronic, wireless, and sometimes third-party cloud dependent services, having a say in how I lock my doors or control heating.

        I’m a bit old fashioned, but also have to work with solutions where considering the consequences of a compromised entry point is vital. I’d be ok with a way to check that the door is locked, but something that can lock (and, so, unlock) my door remotely? Not a chance. At least, not for a place a value.

        • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          10 days ago

          I ended up going down the matter, home assistant, HomeKit route so I have some options for local network control.

        • BCsven@lemmy.ca
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          10 days ago

          If you are into that: then tplink kasa switches and plugs can be reconfigured via hs100 app on git hub, so that they only look local and don’t try to reach out to a remote server. You can use the app to connect them to your local WiFi. Then you can control them via home assistant locally (or remotely) and not rely on a corporate server and android app for use

          • bitwolf@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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            10 days ago

            I actually have a few of the Matter supported Kasa smart switches.

            They work incredibly well, but they still haven’t been updated to Matter 1.3 so no power consumption statistics in Home Assistant.

    • CoolMatt@lemmy.ca
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      11 days ago

      I once wondered why the fuck an oven should need WiFi.

      Then last week I was stuck in a traffic jam coming home from work, and took 2 hrs to do what should’ve been a 1 hr drive. (45km distance)

      Then I had to make dinner, and I had such little time to have dinner, clean up from dinner, shower, walk the dog, and settle down for bed for work in the morning, I was angrily wishing I could preheat the oven while I was on my way home from work. That’s when I realized the reason for a WiFi oven.

      Also, being able to say “hey Google lights out” when I’m tired as fuck about to go to bed and the light switch is on the other side of the room opposite direction from the bedroom, is nice too.

      Actually, as someone who has little free time when not stuck at work or in traffic, I’m probably more likely than the average person to appreciate things having wifi.

      Doorknobs though, I’ll draw the line there so we can both at least agree on something together

      • cley_faye@lemmy.world
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        10 days ago

        I’m worried about anything that can be controlled through a third-party online service. The amazon doorbell thing is a prime example of what can go wrong, but it can be more subtle, too. And I’m not even talking about obsolescence. Frankly, I’d still be worried if it was a self-hosted, properly configured system where I’m the only one with a legit access.

        I understand the convenience of all this. I also have to deal with the risk balance of security vs convenience, which causes me to not tolerate that “too tired to go across the room” justifies “a third party have full control over my doors, lights, heating, ovens, etc.” (not shooting fire at you, see this as a generic example).

        The bare minimum would be a fully self-hosted solution, which is possible, although difficult because hardware manufacturers don’t always play nice. And even then, proper, secure setup and maintenance is not for everyone. In the meantime, yeah, I’ll have to move myself when I want to turn on my dishwasher.

        Though I’ll admit, I have some lights that are controlled wirelessly… my old phone have an IR port, and they have IR remotes… Technically, an attacker could probably turn them on/off/change colors from behind a window :D

      • KingPorkChop@lemmy.caEnglish
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        10 days ago

        I was angrily wishing I could preheat the oven while I was on my way home from work. That’s when I realized the reason for a WiFi oven.

        Maybe a better oven is better than wifi. It only takes my oven a few minutes to get up to temp.

        I come home, turn it on, fiddle with “getting home shit”, and by the time I’m done it’s ready to go. No wifi needed.

        • CoolMatt@lemmy.ca
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          10 days ago

          Rental. I’ve got no choice than to use the shitty Samsung crap they put in these apartments, which you have to set 25 degrees higher than all the cooking instructions in the world say to, and it still takes 50% longer to cook than it says.

          Besides, electric ovens always take FOR EVER to preheat no matter what

  • N0t_5ure@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    I will never own a grill that has to connect to wifi. In fact, I actively avoid any appliance that adds unnecessary IOT functionality.

    • Riskable@programming.devEnglish
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      11 days ago

      I know, right? Why send my BBQ data to the cloud when I can just cook with a handful of GPUs, locally? To start the grill you just ask the animated waifu to dance and sing a random, AI-generated song that matches your taste in music. Then the fans spin up and send scrumptious GPU heat into the grill, cooking up a delicious hallucination where your animated waifu sings, “That looks yummy! Yummy yummy yummy! Hai hai hai!”

    • Taleya@aussie.zoneEnglish
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      11 days ago

      We’re starting to add some IoT stuff (mostly sockets and leak sensors for the basement brewery) but it had to wait until i’d built a beefier firewall and the HA server. 'Cos that shit is not leaving the house